Well, I have my thoughts on both, but I would go for the Cessna 172. I'm a big guy; so in the piper my legs are crammed into the yoke with the seat all the way down and back. In the cessna I only have this problem if I am trying to hold a x-wind correction on a soft takeoff/landing. The cherokee I flew cruised at 100, the cessna I regularly fly cruises at 115.
Yes it's used as our tow plane but we have flown it comfortably from Brussels to Nice.
It's our very own DR-400 (see pic).
It even looks cool to boot....
Also, and this is my favorite part. It's got a stick !!!!
I wish Cessnas would have sticks. It's much more intuitive IMHO.
Soooo, for multi-purpose, it's about the best bang for the buck you can get.
P.S. JJBAKER, I'm learning to tow with our DR-400 and have done just over 10 tows with instructor. He says he can let me go solo as soon as I get my papers in order with the theoretical JAR Belgium Airspace test.
Originally posted by jerryp It's going to be tough to find a Cherokee Six for under $50k that's worth flying...
...and worth maintaining, insuring, paying tie down/hangar.
From my own research on insurance, which is extremely recent, until you have at least an IR + 300TT you should stay away from 6 seats. The only way you're going to be able to get a nice flyable, reliable Six on that budget is quite simply a partnership.
If I had only $50k to work with I'd probably purchase a 172, or a Pitts. If I had $50k plus a loan I'd probably look closely at something Turbo'ed. The turbo singles will do more all day long and deliver miles of smiles.
Originally posted by Raph [CorsairAce... not a word.... by the way we have another jumper on bord -> JJBAKER]
Nope, I prefer to sit upfront and look smart, by the time the fellas start putting their live into the hands of some czech nylonproducer that was outta business years ago... did you know: in a porter you can get rid of that last student-jumper by shortly establishing a 90 degree bank and hit the rudder the other way? Flupp...
naww, thats not nice, 'd never do that...
Looking through your selections of aircraft on controller, is very interesting.
Anyway, what came to mind is that the OP should buy the $16k Cessna, run off about 200 hours and then upgrade to the Six. It would actually be cheaper all the way around. The insurance even for someone with .9 TT is only going to be about $1,200 a year (at the absolute most) and then when it's time for the Six, the insurance for 300TT + IR, and maybe 25 in make will be much less expensive. I'd assume that a .9 hour pilot looking to purchase a six would be prevented from a solo, unless enough money was applied to the table. I've heard a couple guys with Cirri have insured as a student with NationAir for about $12k/annually and they were able to solo, etc. NationAir has funny limits though on things like your first IFR solo based on time in type, etc.
I can't believe I'm about to say this, because I'm probably the absolute worst about this, buuuuutttt..
You don't need a Six to complete that mission. 200nm is easily within the range of a 172 and you'll only use about 20 gallons of fuel doing it. In fact, I think you'll find a 172 will fit that mission well, unless of course you need a heavier hauler.
I really can't believe I just said buy less aircraft, it didn't even feel right.